Goodmornong mr. Roy
I agree with you, that AAP needs to go through a make over. When AAP was in the making stage, I had questioned them via FB, were they equipped for governance?and they had taken offence to it. in politics, you have to be thick skinned yet absorbant . You have to deal with a very diverse population. One cannot afford to be egoist, touchy or stubborn. They mistook delhi win , which wad wave driven, as consensus driven. And since it was as unexpected to them as to all othets, they lost their bslance. Instead of following certain compulsary protocals of governance, they continued behaving as activists. Bharti should have been more discreet in his behaviour. And instead of reprimanding him, the entire team was lead to a stage show. Ridiculous. The team sure needs an overhaul. Agree with you.learn the art of consensus organizing to booth management. You will stay rooted. All the best. Regards.
Sandhya Sinha
Women's Political Forum
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From: "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Sent: July 30, 2014 3:22 AM
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Kejriwal's dilema
Dear Ms. Sinha
Let me say that I agree with your analysis to a large extent. At the
same time we have to be PRAGMATIC.
The Govt. of Delhi is presently being run by a LG in an an OPAQUE and
CORRUPT way by the "syndicate". Citizens have no accountability
because they are UNREPRESENTED in babu-raj. The degree of corruption
is OUT-OF-CONTROL. Inflation is OUT-OF-CONTROL to the extent that
DSIDC liquor vends sales have dropped by 60% because poor people can't
afford their daily liquor, so CRIME is out of control. (We have
excellent grass root info)
BJP is showing that they are incapable of governance. AAP has already
shown that they were even more incapable of good governance, and
Congress has shown that they are only very capable of CORRUPT
GOVERNANCE which bankrupt's the State exchequers.
So, the only party which shows chances (and very small chances) of
"hope" is the AAP, but they have to undergo a "make over" and eschew
"personality cults" if they are not to implode and self-destruct. The
iron is hot if AAP knows how to strike, or else Congress may walk off
with Delhi.
Or else let BJP form a Govt !!!!
Sarbajit
See the irony --> 1 Monsanto seeded US tomato = 2 US$
On 7/29/14, sandhya sinha <sinhasandhya@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Wow! What a suggestion.it is thinkers like you who have made AAP the
> laughing stock that it has become today. AAP had won the election riding on
> the plank of anti corruption against the then ruling party. You are
> suggesting, now come and join that very chorus.wow!brilliant.
> Whatever little bit of creditabililty is left, they will lose that also.not
> because they join hands with congress but because they are going back on
> their words. They have already lost on governance.now they will lose on the
> creditability of their words too.
> Sandhya sinha
> Women's Political Forum
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> Sent: July 29, 2014 3:00 AM
> To: "indiaresists" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
> Subject: [IAC#RG] Kejriwal's dilema
>
> Delhi Govt formation is make or break now for Aam Aadmi Party's
> survival / existence.
>
> Arvind should be realistic and form a coalition govt in Delhi with
> Congress, even its for
> just for 6 months and improve his personal image.
>
> The alternative is that at least 9 of his MLAs will become very
> neutral towards the BJP. since both BJP and AAP would lose many seats
> in Delhi if elections are held today, and Congress would get AT LEAST
> 25 seats (out of 70) since LS results show AAP has lost its Muslim
> votes.
>
> Now if the AAP and Cong form a coalition, Arvind should tell all his
> boys to keep very quiet and restrain their goonda / hooligan tactics
> All these things are counter-productive IN THE LONG RUN. Arvind
> himself should maintain a sphinx-like silence and show that he is
> better at delivering good governance than Mr Modi in a MARKET DRIVEN
> ECONOMY.
>
> Sarbajit
>
Wednesday, July 30, 2014
Re: [IAC#RG] SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS
When we are out of our home, we do not know what our family members are doing presently. I think, all human beings accept this.
Molestation of women and girls can only be stopped when each and every parent teach their children about the importance of women. How can we judge a person(Modi) with numerous responsibilities on his shoulders. Its not Modi, who will teach all this to our youngsters. If possible start teaching our and your youngsters rather than
writing all nonsense.
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 9:46 AM, mono bhagat <monobhagat@hotmail.com> wrote:
Well said Madhu Bhatia. If we could only shed our hypocrisy and cynicism, we may get somewhere. Very easy to pen big words on a Cmptr, very hard to abide by them. People in the West act by themselves and add on value to society and living, rather than be judgemental on every one, which is a pat time with us Indian 'wellas'!
MonoFirst of all pl don't accuse Indians -its some humans.All this dirt is being splattered cosman is more and more cocooned in hisspace. HIS MIND RUNS AWAY WITH HIM.Don't expect Modi to do it all for you.Learn to be socially responsible forwhat is happening around you.WHAT R U AS INDIVIDUALS DOING IN YOUR SOCIETY.TAKING A COMPUTERAND NOW WRITING AGAINST EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING.BECOME PRO-ACTIVE ANDWORK POSITIVELY AROUND YOU.IT MAY BE GARDENING, LOOKING AFTER OTHERS,OR SENIOR CITIZENS.OR TEACHING YOGA TO OTHERS.OR JUST MEDITATE YOURSELF TO CALM DOWN.MADHU BHATIAOn Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 11:44 AM, S L Rao <raosl@hotmail.com> wrote:The Prime Minister of as large a country as India, with innumerable problems, and a government to run, cannot be an office boy who repondso every issue that arises. I expect he will talk to the country when he is ready. All political parties, especially those not accustomed to exercising power, have extremists and loud mouths like the ones mentioed by Mr Chopra. I am sure that a Prime Minister has better things to do than responding to each one of these madmen.
The party should have dealt with these people. It speaks of the low weight of Rajnath Singh and even Amit shah that they have not.
SLRAO
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 11:13:38 +0530
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTSNo Sire,i tend not to agree, in whatever is and has been said on the subject.WE as a nation, after independence, have become Impotent.IF anyone disagrees -- can he/she say why such criminalsare not given the severest punishment ?dev chopra in gurgaon***On 27 July 2014 18:40, Madhukar Thote <mythote@gmail.com> wrote:
why rapes are on the increase? Because there is no immediate severe punishment for the rapists. Court Punishment takes years. Unless there is fear of the immediate strong action, the crimes in our country will be on the rise. Our laws are perhaps weak.M.Y. ThoteOn Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 10:19 AM, <cdr.gandhi@gmail.com> wrote:
While I do not doubt the administrative skills and honest intensions to do good for the society. his silence on some of the serious incidents in the recent past have done him no good. He should have made clear and unequivocal statements on matters like 1. death of a muslim boy in Pune in the matter of face book entry about Shivsena Chief and Shivaji 2.behaviour of shiv sena MPs in Maharashtra sadan 3. statement of BJP leader from Telangana about Sania Mirza 4 Praveen Togadia,s statements etc. Unless he condemns them openly and catagorically his image will suffer seriously. In fact losing all 3 by elections in Uttarakhand should send him a message....H C GandhiOn Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
To
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SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS
It is extremely disgusting to read repeatedly the nauseating news that even girls as young as three years are being abused by men, sometimes as old as sixty years. It turns one's stomach to hear news that men teachers molest the girl students even inside the school premises and fathers and brothers rape daughters and sisters. One wonders as to what is happening to the men folk in India, who are nothing but beasts.
Such condition is a direct reflection on the quality of governance that we have in India today and the type of people who sit as ministers , parliamentarians and legislators. What these beasts among men need are severe and life long punishment, which is the responsibility of the government to inflict on them. But, some ministers laugh away at such incidents and condemn the media who expose these incidents and thus show that these politicians and ministers could themselves be the beasts, as they treat these incidents light heartedly.
While the politicians and the ministers stand condemned , one person who comes to the mind of everyone immediately is the Prime Minister Mr. Narendra Modi. What is he doing ? Why is he remaining silent ? Why is he not condemning these incidents in the strongest terms and ask the officials and police to put down such incidents with all the force at their command. He is the Prime Minister and he has the duty and responsibility to protect the helpless girls and women.
By his silence , millions of people who voted for B JP government only based on expectations and faith in Mr. Narendra Modi feel helpless and frustrated. One hopes Mr. Modi will wake up to his responsibility.
N.S.Venkataraman
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Re: [IAC#RG] SUPREME COURT CRYING FOR JUSTICE
What we have seen is that the body for appointment of Judges to S.C. & H.C
,whether pre 1993-1998 or thereafter have both failed to satisfy the people including intelligentia ,the honest purpose which was to be served.
The only solution is to create a fresh 'Authority'.The purpose,modalities,criteria should all be well defined and written.It is not the'Authority' but the persons who man the'Authority' matter most.Who will appoint person to this'Authority? Again we face a difficult question.
We are reading in news papers wherein appointments are being made by authorities in violation of the guidelines issued by S.C.or by ignoring the established practice & procedure.The recent examples are about the
controversial appointments to NHRC & to State Information Commission of a
State.
D.C.Verma
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Aires Rodrigues <airesrodrigues1@gmail.com> wrote:
A DOUBLE FACED MANOHAR PARRIKAR
By Aires Rodrigues
While as the Leader of Opposition Manohar Parrikar wanted and exercised all his democratic rights. He squatted on the highways blocking the traffic and had even threatened to gate crash to drive away the Casinos parked in the River Mandovi. Now that he is in power, he cannot see his own earlier acts as being holy. Now he wants every Goan to be at his best behavior and silently watch the misdeeds of his government. This however, will not just happen regardless of the threats and intimidation that Manohar Parrikar may rant. He may be concerned only about his Chief Minister's chair but we need to care for Goa. The battle has to go on regardless of the price we may have to pay.
Rattled that various acts of corruption and nepotism by his government have been exposed through the Right to Information Act, Manohar Parrikar has been stifling the transparency law after having conveniently kept Goa without a Lokayukta so that the corrupt can have a field day.
Manohar Parrikar has shown scant respect for the Judiciary and will do everything possible to muzzle and manipulate the press. During his earlier stint as Chief Minister, Mr. Manohar Parrikar had on 24th September 2003 issued a legal notice threatening editors of all newspapers. So a decade down the road nothing has changed. Does the dog's tail ever straighten?.
After having conveniently used most NGO's, activists and habitual litigants to maneuver his way to power, now Manohar Parrikar finds they are a hurdle as misdeeds of his government are coming under the scanner.
If there is any extortion or blackmailing in the name of activism there are already enough laws in place to take care of the malaise which Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar can invoke by first putting his own house in order and clear the rot that is emanating from the Advocate General's office where through back room deals the advocates are appearing for and against the government. Just visit the High Court for a day and public will witness the Advocate General leading his brigade of juniors and so-called former juniors standing for or against each other and strangely, without even sufficient independent practice, appearing for the big fish, in heavy stake-matters. Extortion or blackmail if any needs to be probed?
To come to power Manohar Parrikar made a lot of fake promises. On all his U turns less said the better. Not a paisa of that 35,000 crore illegal mining scam has or will ever be recovered while all that Manohar Parrikar's loose talk is to keep the Goans entertained. To secure his chair he made promises even to his MLAs and party workers of posts and positions which he knew he would not be able to deliver. He had promised Zero tolerance to corruption but the rampant corruption which has ebbed to the peak is there for all to see. The manner in which the erratic and eccentric Manohar Parrikar who is fast losing his marbles is functioning, he may well go down in the history books as the worst ever Chief Minister that Goa has seen.
Activist priest Fr. Eremito Rebello had not long ago said "the sooner Parrikar goes, the better for Goa".
The writing on the wall is very clear. Is your time up, Mr. CM? Why not for the sake of Goa cook up a way to get out and go to the Centre?
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Ravindran P M <raviforjustice@gmail.com> wrote:
There is nothing like judicial independence. It is only a myth created for the consumption of the gullible public. One judge who was appointed as Lokayuktha in Gujarat and refused to take up the job said it explicitly: when I am being appointed against the will of the state govt it will not be possible for me to work freely. There will be resource crunch and all inconveniences will be created for the performance of the duties'. And that is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth!That is why you find that when the judiciary gives a judgement in favor of ordinary citizens and the government fails to implement it no action is taken against the defaulters whereas ordinary citizens are subject to immense pressure not to criticize judges under threat of contempt of court!
regards n bwraviOn Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Dinesh Verma <dcverma06@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all readers who are expressing views about Independence of Judiciary & for Fast Justice.Presently view of political thinkers are that Collegium system for appointment of Supreme Court & High Court Judges bestopped even if Constitutional amendment is required.Disclosure by Supreme Court Judge, Justice ( Retd) Katju about political influence has created a stir among the citizenswho are interested in keeping the Judiciary out of bounds of political interference at any stage.Justice Katju's disclosure hasfound support from former Judges also.Judicial independence has been appreciated by all in general.People have expressed their faith in Judiciary.The Collegium system is working after 1993 & 1998 Judgement.The disclosure by Justice Katju is about interference& its effect is of a much latter date.Thus the interference was indirect when there was no political say in appointment of Judges.In case the proposal as mooted, wherein political persons would also be in the committee of selection of Judges ,isgiven effect, there will be direct involvement of politicians.Persons aspiring for such appointment may prefer to come closure tothe political person in authority.We cannot forget a call given by a political party for Committed Judiciary & its effect .I wold like the readers to express their views with reasons, be it for or against, the view expressed by me.D.C.VermaOn Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:47 PM, <santmathur@gmail.com> wrote:Dear Sureshanji, cd u mind pl sharing your contact details? Larger issies,yet specific to judiciary alone, need to be discussed. Thanks. S P Mathur IPS DGP(retd) BE MBA PhD
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Re: [IAC#RG] Kejriwal's dilema
Dear Dua sahab
Where would AAP get money for all their subsidised socialism in Delhi
? From the same place that Congress got it - liquor sales and stamp
duty on property transactions.
Both sources are seriously down, 'tijori khali hain', GoNCTD salaries
are not being paid on time now, and Congress is only too happy to sit
on sidelines until MARKET recovers in due course.
AAP will have to learn not to pander to its bania / trader sponsors
and design a socialist market economy for Delhi which DISCOURAGES
CONSUMPTION and makes citizens stay within budget (live within their
means) with equality for all..
In other words --> NO SUBSIDIES.
Sarbajit
On 7/29/14, R. Dua <r.dua1234@gmail.com> wrote:
> With due respect to you Sarabjit ji, I can not understand the connect
> betwixt MARKET DRIVEN n aap party. They seem to be poles apart. The AAP
> vote bank is not the same.Do correct if am wrong.
Where would AAP get money for all their subsidised socialism in Delhi
? From the same place that Congress got it - liquor sales and stamp
duty on property transactions.
Both sources are seriously down, 'tijori khali hain', GoNCTD salaries
are not being paid on time now, and Congress is only too happy to sit
on sidelines until MARKET recovers in due course.
AAP will have to learn not to pander to its bania / trader sponsors
and design a socialist market economy for Delhi which DISCOURAGES
CONSUMPTION and makes citizens stay within budget (live within their
means) with equality for all..
In other words --> NO SUBSIDIES.
Sarbajit
On 7/29/14, R. Dua <r.dua1234@gmail.com> wrote:
> With due respect to you Sarabjit ji, I can not understand the connect
> betwixt MARKET DRIVEN n aap party. They seem to be poles apart. The AAP
> vote bank is not the same.Do correct if am wrong.
Tuesday, July 29, 2014
Re: [IAC#RG] Kejriwal's dilema
Dear Ms. Sinha
Let me say that I agree with your analysis to a large extent. At the
same time we have to be PRAGMATIC.
The Govt. of Delhi is presently being run by a LG in an an OPAQUE and
CORRUPT way by the "syndicate". Citizens have no accountability
because they are UNREPRESENTED in babu-raj. The degree of corruption
is OUT-OF-CONTROL. Inflation is OUT-OF-CONTROL to the extent that
DSIDC liquor vends sales have dropped by 60% because poor people can't
afford their daily liquor, so CRIME is out of control. (We have
excellent grass root info)
BJP is showing that they are incapable of governance. AAP has already
shown that they were even more incapable of good governance, and
Congress has shown that they are only very capable of CORRUPT
GOVERNANCE which bankrupt's the State exchequers.
So, the only party which shows chances (and very small chances) of
"hope" is the AAP, but they have to undergo a "make over" and eschew
"personality cults" if they are not to implode and self-destruct. The
iron is hot if AAP knows how to strike, or else Congress may walk off
with Delhi.
Or else let BJP form a Govt !!!!
Sarbajit
See the irony --> 1 Monsanto seeded US tomato = 2 US$
On 7/29/14, sandhya sinha <sinhasandhya@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Wow! What a suggestion.it is thinkers like you who have made AAP the
> laughing stock that it has become today. AAP had won the election riding on
> the plank of anti corruption against the then ruling party. You are
> suggesting, now come and join that very chorus.wow!brilliant.
> Whatever little bit of creditabililty is left, they will lose that also.not
> because they join hands with congress but because they are going back on
> their words. They have already lost on governance.now they will lose on the
> creditability of their words too.
> Sandhya sinha
> Women's Political Forum
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> Sent: July 29, 2014 3:00 AM
> To: "indiaresists" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
> Subject: [IAC#RG] Kejriwal's dilema
>
> Delhi Govt formation is make or break now for Aam Aadmi Party's
> survival / existence.
>
> Arvind should be realistic and form a coalition govt in Delhi with
> Congress, even its for
> just for 6 months and improve his personal image.
>
> The alternative is that at least 9 of his MLAs will become very
> neutral towards the BJP. since both BJP and AAP would lose many seats
> in Delhi if elections are held today, and Congress would get AT LEAST
> 25 seats (out of 70) since LS results show AAP has lost its Muslim
> votes.
>
> Now if the AAP and Cong form a coalition, Arvind should tell all his
> boys to keep very quiet and restrain their goonda / hooligan tactics
> All these things are counter-productive IN THE LONG RUN. Arvind
> himself should maintain a sphinx-like silence and show that he is
> better at delivering good governance than Mr Modi in a MARKET DRIVEN
> ECONOMY.
>
> Sarbajit
>
Let me say that I agree with your analysis to a large extent. At the
same time we have to be PRAGMATIC.
The Govt. of Delhi is presently being run by a LG in an an OPAQUE and
CORRUPT way by the "syndicate". Citizens have no accountability
because they are UNREPRESENTED in babu-raj. The degree of corruption
is OUT-OF-CONTROL. Inflation is OUT-OF-CONTROL to the extent that
DSIDC liquor vends sales have dropped by 60% because poor people can't
afford their daily liquor, so CRIME is out of control. (We have
excellent grass root info)
BJP is showing that they are incapable of governance. AAP has already
shown that they were even more incapable of good governance, and
Congress has shown that they are only very capable of CORRUPT
GOVERNANCE which bankrupt's the State exchequers.
So, the only party which shows chances (and very small chances) of
"hope" is the AAP, but they have to undergo a "make over" and eschew
"personality cults" if they are not to implode and self-destruct. The
iron is hot if AAP knows how to strike, or else Congress may walk off
with Delhi.
Or else let BJP form a Govt !!!!
Sarbajit
See the irony --> 1 Monsanto seeded US tomato = 2 US$
On 7/29/14, sandhya sinha <sinhasandhya@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Wow! What a suggestion.it is thinkers like you who have made AAP the
> laughing stock that it has become today. AAP had won the election riding on
> the plank of anti corruption against the then ruling party. You are
> suggesting, now come and join that very chorus.wow!brilliant.
> Whatever little bit of creditabililty is left, they will lose that also.not
> because they join hands with congress but because they are going back on
> their words. They have already lost on governance.now they will lose on the
> creditability of their words too.
> Sandhya sinha
> Women's Political Forum
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> Sent: July 29, 2014 3:00 AM
> To: "indiaresists" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
> Subject: [IAC#RG] Kejriwal's dilema
>
> Delhi Govt formation is make or break now for Aam Aadmi Party's
> survival / existence.
>
> Arvind should be realistic and form a coalition govt in Delhi with
> Congress, even its for
> just for 6 months and improve his personal image.
>
> The alternative is that at least 9 of his MLAs will become very
> neutral towards the BJP. since both BJP and AAP would lose many seats
> in Delhi if elections are held today, and Congress would get AT LEAST
> 25 seats (out of 70) since LS results show AAP has lost its Muslim
> votes.
>
> Now if the AAP and Cong form a coalition, Arvind should tell all his
> boys to keep very quiet and restrain their goonda / hooligan tactics
> All these things are counter-productive IN THE LONG RUN. Arvind
> himself should maintain a sphinx-like silence and show that he is
> better at delivering good governance than Mr Modi in a MARKET DRIVEN
> ECONOMY.
>
> Sarbajit
>
Re: [IAC#RG] SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS
Friends,
No religion is "worth its salt" if it colludes / promotes communalism, death & destruction.
PM-level leadership is NOT comparable, based on 10 YEARS and by mere 75 DAYS .... Rape, abducting, and denigrating women with ANY kind / sort of down-rating or down-grading ought to get dealt with as per our umpteen rules and laws.
Application of the law is called for NOT mere reference to the Article & Clause!
We in India, generally, have become adept at that, shamelessly.
Burning of incense or ringing the temple bells, or bowing piously before the God-head will not provide us the heavenly bliss. We too do the same, religiously, BUT implement the key steps essential to respect the young and the seniors in the family, in the neighbourhood, and through the RWAs one is a member of + save water, NOT splash it away with hose-pipes in washing the car/s or driveway or the top-floor. Use the bucket & mug. Get rid of showers for bathing, use the bucket.
With Independence, we ought to have become constructive and loyal citizens -- NOT the kind of a nation where tomatoes, potatoes and onions go out of reach, coal is imported etc., etc., & the governance connives at all such wrong acts. Finally: A culture that does not RESPECT the WOMAN or the seniors -- will have a lot to rue in time to come ....
Peace.
dev chopra
On 29 July 2014 13:25, <devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com> wrote:
Is Modi's silence more sacrosanct and meaningful than say Dr Manmohan Singh's. People look towards the PM for guidance and leadership. Alright one can not expect the PM to issue statement after every act of rape has been committed but is Modi providing any leadership in the matter of communal riots in which his party seems to be prominent participant.?? Devinder.
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Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS
The Prime Minister of as large a country as India, with innumerable problems, and a government to run, cannot be an office boy who repondso every issue that arises. I expect he will talk to the country when he is ready. All political parties, especially those not accustomed to exercising power, have extremists and loud mouths like the ones mentioed by Mr Chopra. I am sure that a Prime Minister has better things to do than responding to each one of these madmen.
The party should have dealt with these people. It speaks of the low weight of Rajnath Singh and even Amit shah that they have not.
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTSNo Sire,i tend not to agree, in whatever is and has been said on the subject.WE as a nation, after independence, have become Impotent.IF anyone disagrees -- can he/she say why such criminalsare not given the severest punishment ?dev chopra in gurgaon***On 27 July 2014 18:40, Madhukar Thote <mythote@gmail.com> wrote:
why rapes are on the increase? Because there is no immediate severe punishment for the rapists. Court Punishment takes years. Unless there is fear of the immediate strong action, the crimes in our country will be on the rise. Our laws are perhaps weak.M.Y. ThoteOn Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 10:19 AM, <cdr.gandhi@gmail.com> wrote:
While I do not doubt the administrative skills and honest intensions to do good for the society. his silence on some of the serious incidents in the recent past have done him no good. He should have made clear and unequivocal statements on matters like 1. death of a muslim boy in Pune in the matter of face book entry about Shivsena Chief and Shivaji 2.behaviour of shiv sena MPs in Maharashtra sadan 3. statement of BJP leader from Telangana about Sania Mirza 4 Praveen Togadia,s statements etc. Unless he condemns them openly and catagorically his image will suffer seriously. In fact losing all 3 by elections in Uttarakhand should send him a message....H C GandhiOn Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
ToIndia Against CorruptionSOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTSIt is extremely disgusting to read repeatedly the nauseating news that even girls as young as three years are being abused by men, sometimes as old as sixty years. It turns one's stomach to hear news that men teachers molest the girl students even inside the school premises and fathers and brothers rape daughters and sisters. One wonders as to what is happening to the men folk in India, who are nothing but beasts.Such condition is a direct reflection on the quality of governance that we have in India today and the type of people who sit as ministers , parliamentarians and legislators. What these beasts among men need are severe and life long punishment, which is the responsibility of the government to inflict on them. But, some ministers laugh away at such incidents and condemn the media who expose these incidents and thus show that these politicians and ministers could themselves be the beasts, as they treat these incidents light heartedly.While the politicians and the ministers stand condemned , one person who comes to the mind of everyone immediately is the Prime Minister Mr. Narendra Modi. What is he doing ? Why is he remaining silent ? Why is he not condemning these incidents in the strongest terms and ask the officials and police to put down such incidents with all the force at their command. He is the Prime Minister and he has the duty and responsibility to protect the helpless girls and women.By his silence , millions of people who voted for B JP government only based on expectations and faith in Mr. Narendra Modi feel helpless and frustrated. One hopes Mr. Modi will wake up to his responsibility.N.S.VenkataramanNandini Voice For The DeprivedChennai
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RE: [IAC#RG] SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS
The misgovernence,lack of direction,wrong economic policies,the shameful sight of its members falling at the feet of a one time Italian bar-maid in the name of a decadent dynasty all made me a staunch supporter of Modi.But the main threat posed to our country now is not from the sporadic communal flare ups but the undue influence of Hindi linguistic fanatics who do not recognise there are equally old languages in the country and men who turn our forests and wildlife as expendable commodities.In all the cow belt states,three language formula has been given a go by.Many Hindi protogonists even now are not aware that there are four different languages in south,the people from these states being described as Madrassis.They do not want English.As far as environment and wildlife are concerned,we have a central minister who proclims himself as a environmentalist and goes on demolishing every edifice that protects our envirinment.Recent case is that of Indian Wildlife Board which is now stuffed with all Government employees.And this is the board that protects our sanctuaries from mining and ither vested interest lobbies.
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 08:55:09 +0100
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS
Is Modi's silence more sacrosanct and meaningful than say Dr Manmohan Singh's. People look towards the PM for guidance and leadership. Alright one can not expect the PM to issue statement after every act of rape has been committed but is Modi providing any leadership in the matter of communal riots in which his party seems to be prominent participant.?? Devinder.
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Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS
The Prime Minister of as large a country as India, with innumerable problems, and a government to run, cannot be an office boy who repondso every issue that arises. I expect he will talk to the country when he is ready. All political parties, especially those not accustomed to exercising power, have extremists and loud mouths like the ones mentioed by Mr Chopra. I am sure that a Prime Minister has better things to do than responding to each one of these madmen.
The party should have dealt with these people. It speaks of the low weight of Rajnath Singh and even Amit shah that they have not.
SLRAODate: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 11:13:38 +0530
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTSNo Sire,i tend not to agree, in whatever is and has been said on the subject.WE as a nation, after independence, have become Impotent.IF anyone disagrees -- can he/she say why such criminalsare not given the severest punishment ?dev chopra in gurgaon***On 27 July 2014 18:40, Madhukar Thote <mythote@gmail.com> wrote:
why rapes are on the increase? Because there is no immediate severe punishment for the rapists. Court Punishment takes years. Unless there is fear of the immediate strong action, the crimes in our country will be on the rise. Our laws are perhaps weak.M.Y. ThoteOn Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 10:19 AM, <cdr.gandhi@gmail.com> wrote:
While I do not doubt the administrative skills and honest intensions to do good for the society. his silence on some of the serious incidents in the recent past have done him no good. He should have made clear and unequivocal statements on matters like 1. death of a muslim boy in Pune in the matter of face book entry about Shivsena Chief and Shivaji 2.behaviour of shiv sena MPs in Maharashtra sadan 3. statement of BJP leader from Telangana about Sania Mirza 4 Praveen Togadia,s statements etc. Unless he condemns them openly and catagorically his image will suffer seriously. In fact losing all 3 by elections in Uttarakhand should send him a message....H C GandhiOn Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
ToIndia Against CorruptionSOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTSIt is extremely disgusting to read repeatedly the nauseating news that even girls as young as three years are being abused by men, sometimes as old as sixty years. It turns one's stomach to hear news that men teachers molest the girl students even inside the school premises and fathers and brothers rape daughters and sisters. One wonders as to what is happening to the men folk in India, who are nothing but beasts.Such condition is a direct reflection on the quality of governance that we have in India today and the type of people who sit as ministers , parliamentarians and legislators. What these beasts among men need are severe and life long punishment, which is the responsibility of the government to inflict on them. But, some ministers laugh away at such incidents and condemn the media who expose these incidents and thus show that these politicians and ministers could themselves be the beasts, as they treat these incidents light heartedly.While the politicians and the ministers stand condemned , one person who comes to the mind of everyone immediately is the Prime Minister Mr. Narendra Modi. What is he doing ? Why is he remaining silent ? Why is he not condemning these incidents in the strongest terms and ask the officials and police to put down such incidents with all the force at their command. He is the Prime Minister and he has the duty and responsibility to protect the helpless girls and women.By his silence , millions of people who voted for B JP government only based on expectations and faith in Mr. Narendra Modi feel helpless and frustrated. One hopes Mr. Modi will wake up to his responsibility.N.S.VenkataramanNandini Voice For The DeprivedChennai
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