RE: [IAC#RG] IAC's position on homosexualtity

16/10/14

 

Dear Mr. S.Roy,

I have already posted my comments on this subject and I fully support the resolution proposed by you.

To my mind the key word in the resolution is " 10 millenium recorded history" Essentially it shows the intrinsic strength
and resilience of the values which have stood the test of time whereas other old civilisations have fallen by the wayside. And this is what amazes the world except the Indians.

Those who consider my thinking is old and outdated, let me say that I had a very liberal education and I have seen the Islamic,Budhist and christian culture as exist today in various parts of the world.

Deviant human behaviour in matters of sex should be treated as exception and not the rule and does not warrant enactment of seperate laws. If something is wrong in our law enforcing agencies,correcting them is a different issue.

What the US and Europe does is modern, everything else is medieval and outdated. We certainly are living in a new brave world.

I suggest that on various issues that we discuss,you as moderator, give finality after ascertaining the views and the same subject should not be discussed again and again.

Regds

JKGaur  

Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 17:11:33 +0530
From: mdnalapat@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] IAC's position on homosexualtity

Very 19th century
 
  Original Message  
From: Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Sunday, 12 October 2014 16:36
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Reply To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] IAC's position on homosexualtity
 
The IAC movement having carefully considered the sense of the members,
now proposes the following draft resolution on subject of
homosexuality and allied matters like regulation of prostitutes.
 
"That India Against Corruption opposes the arbitrary and divisive
categorisation of Indian citizens and other persons resident within
the territory of India to frame and/or amend laws and/or policies to
provide special benefits to any person or groupings of persons within
the territory of India.
 
That India Against Corruption renews and reiterates its position that
the well established body of criminal laws in India should remain
essentially unchanged and not be tampered with.
 
That IAC firmly denounces and opposes all foreign forces, and their
Indian lackeys, which are meddling with India's polity, including its
laws, to divide and destroy India's multi-ethnic peaceful secular
culture and society, evolved over 10 millennia of recorded history."
 
The discussion is open, as this is a core issue for IAC ...
 
Sarbajit
 
On 10/2/14, ltcolttkishore <ltcolttkishore@gmail.com> wrote:
> Freedom to be LGBTs, prostitution and hope the kind hearts will take up
> cudgels on behalf of rapists, child abusers/ molesters, activities of scum
> of the society like drug addicts, drug peddlers treating them as some
> unfortunate chemical imbalance of physiology!!!
> Too much of permissiveness is bad,"ati starve tar varjeyate".
> Is there an insidious attempt to initiate rot in our long established
> cultural values based on aggregate experience of Rishis/ Munis/jeevanMuktas
> .
> I feel concerned at the unabashed permissiveness sought to be supported by
> some of the subscribers.Unless the majority are not taken in to confidence
> the ' enlightened ( ?)and champions of freedom to do ANY THING' have to hold
> fire. Possibly over a period of time and process of societal evolution the
> unseemly things of present times may gain legitimacy and social acceptance.
>
>
> LtCol(retd.)T.T.Kishore, Engineers
>
> On Sep 30, 2014, at 3:54 PM, SURESHAN P <sureshandelhi@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Completely agree with this proposal, Freedom of an individual is utmost
> important and government has no role to curtail it unless and until
> enjoyment of freedom interfere with others freedom"
>
> Further, prostitution is required to be legalized and regulated, This
> will save many sex workers from police atrocities and forced sex. Even
> regularized prostitution will give a right to every sex worker to live
> freely and fearlessly and they are not required to work just like a bonded
> labor under a pimp or brothel managers.
>
> These are all much needed law amendment
>
> regards
>
>
>
>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear Raminder,
>>
>> Seriously, for a long time I have been wondering if IAC should settle
>> its policy on "unpopular" issues like homosexuality, birth /
>> population control in the same way that we have an unpopular position
>> on "right to own and bear arms".
>>
>> In keeping with the clauses in IAC's charter on inclusiveness,
>> diversity, secularism etc. I propose a sense of the house motion on
>> the following lines.
>>
>> "That India Against Corruption supports the freedom of every person
>> resident within the territory of India to explore all forms and
>> variations of consensual sexual practices, and marry irrespective of
>> gender. That accordingly laws like Indian Penal Code and Special
>> Marriage Act etc. require to be amended."
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/30/14, Raminder Singh <ramisingh.bbc@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Sarabjit
>> >
>> > Good One :)
>> > And here's another :-
>> >
>> > The RSS, VHP and Vatican all have something in common. Being being
>> > mostly
>> > practicing closet homosexuals, they all denounce homosexuality in
>> > public.
>> >
>> > Rami
>>
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