Tuesday, July 29, 2014

Re: [IAC#RG] SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS

Well said Madhu Bhatia. If we could only shed our hypocrisy and cynicism, we may get somewhere. Very easy to pen big words on a Cmptr, very hard to abide by them. People in the West act by themselves and add on value to society and living, rather than be judgemental on every one, which is a pat time with us Indian 'wellas'!

 Mono




On 30-Jul-2014, at 8:48, "Madhu Bhatia" <bhatiamadhu@gmail.com> wrote:

First of all pl don't accuse Indians - 
its some humans.

All this dirt is being splattered cos 
man is more and more cocooned in his 
space. HIS MIND RUNS AWAY WITH HIM. 

Don't expect Modi to do it all for you. 

Learn to be socially responsible for 
what is happening around you. 

WHAT R U AS INDIVIDUALS DOING IN YOUR SOCIETY. 
TAKING A COMPUTER 
AND NOW WRITING AGAINST EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING. 
BECOME PRO-ACTIVE AND 

WORK POSITIVELY AROUND YOU. 
IT MAY BE GARDENING, LOOKING AFTER OTHERS, 
OR SENIOR CITIZENS. 

OR TEACHING YOGA TO OTHERS. 

OR JUST MEDITATE YOURSELF TO CALM DOWN. 

MADHU BHATIA



On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 11:44 AM, S L Rao <raosl@hotmail.com> wrote:
The Prime Minister of as large a country as India, with innumerable problems, and a government to run, cannot be an office boy who repondso every issue that arises. I expect he will talk to the country when he is ready. All political parties, especially those not accustomed to exercising power, have extremists and loud mouths like the ones mentioed by Mr Chopra. I am sure that a Prime Minister has better things to do than responding to each one of these madmen.
The party should have dealt with these people. It speaks of the low weight of Rajnath Singh and even Amit shah that they have not.
SLRAO


Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 11:13:38 +0530
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No Sire,
i tend not to agree, in whatever is and has been said on the subject.
WE as a nation, after independence, have become Impotent.
IF anyone disagrees -- can he/she say why such criminals
are not given the severest punishment ?

dev chopra in gurgaon
***


On 27 July 2014 18:40, Madhukar Thote <mythote@gmail.com> wrote:
why rapes are on the increase? Because there is no immediate severe punishment for the rapists.  Court Punishment takes years. Unless there is fear of the immediate strong action, the crimes in our country will be on the rise. Our laws are perhaps weak.
M.Y. Thote  


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 10:19 AM, <cdr.gandhi@gmail.com> wrote:
While I do not doubt the administrative skills and honest intensions to do good for the society. his silence on some of the serious incidents in the recent past have done him no good. He should have made clear and unequivocal statements on matters like 1. death of a muslim boy in Pune in the matter of face book entry about Shivsena Chief and Shivaji 2.behaviour of shiv sena MPs in Maharashtra sadan 3. statement of BJP leader from Telangana about Sania Mirza 4 Praveen Togadia,s statements  etc. Unless he condemns them openly and catagorically his image will suffer seriously. In fact losing all 3 by elections in Uttarakhand should send him a message....H C Gandhi 


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
 
 

To                                                                                                                                 

India Against Corruption

 

                                                                                                                               SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS

 

It is extremely disgusting to read repeatedly the nauseating news that even girls as young as three years are being abused by men, sometimes as old as sixty years. It turns one's stomach to hear news that  men  teachers molest the girl students even inside the school premises and fathers and brothers rape daughters and sisters. One wonders as to what is happening to the men folk in India, who are nothing but beasts.

Such condition is a direct reflection on the quality of governance that we have in India today and the type of people who sit as ministers , parliamentarians and legislators. What these beasts among men need are severe and life long punishment, which is the responsibility of the government to inflict on them.  But, some ministers laugh away at such incidents and condemn the media who expose these incidents and thus show that these politicians and ministers could themselves be the beasts, as they  treat these incidents light heartedly.

While  the politicians and the  ministers stand condemned , one person who comes to the mind of everyone immediately is the Prime Minister Mr. Narendra Modi.  What is he doing ? Why is he remaining silent ? Why is he not condemning these incidents in the strongest terms and ask the officials and  police to put down such incidents with all the force at their command. He is the Prime Minister and he has the duty and responsibility to protect the helpless girls and women.

By his silence , millions of people who voted for B JP government only based on expectations and faith  in Mr. Narendra Modi feel  helpless  and frustrated. One hopes Mr. Modi will wake up to his responsibility.

N.S.Venkataraman

Nandini Voice For The Deprived

Chennai



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Re: [IAC#RG] Kejriwal's dilema

Th irony is that AK and his team have no idea of governance. They are best suited for agitation and dharnas. 

To me, AAP is finished except that we might come across their rabble rousing sporadically.

LK


On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Delhi Govt formation is make or break now for Aam Aadmi Party's
survival / existence.

Arvind should be realistic and form a coalition govt in Delhi with
Congress, even its for
just for 6 months and improve his personal image.

The alternative is that at least 9 of his MLAs will become very
neutral towards the BJP. since both BJP and AAP would lose many seats
in Delhi if elections are held today, and Congress would get AT LEAST
25 seats (out of 70) since LS results show AAP has lost its Muslim
votes.

Now if the AAP and Cong form a coalition, Arvind should tell all his
boys to keep very quiet and restrain their goonda / hooligan tactics
All these things are counter-productive IN THE LONG RUN. Arvind
himself should maintain a sphinx-like silence and show that he is
better at delivering good governance than Mr Modi in a MARKET DRIVEN
ECONOMY.

Sarbajit

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Re: [IAC#RG] SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS

I am not as concerned about his lack of statements, as with:
1. Pushing Hindi without realising the latent opposition in non Hindi states.
2.  Yellowing the RSS to have a say on genetically modified food crops.
3. From behind encouraging bJPOrganizations to agitate in Delhi university, against the UPSC, to name two.
4. Allowing his Gujarat government to propagate in schools the semi literate musings of Batra, against modern scientific discoveries and claiming them for Hindus.
5. Not even loudly condemning the massacre of Palestinians in Gaza by Israel.
   All these have great consequences for India. I wish thus Firum would grow up and deal with serious national issues.
SL.rao

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On 30-Jul-2014, at 8:54 am, devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com wrote:

Is Modi's silence more sacrosanct and meaningful than say Dr Manmohan Singh's. People look towards the PM for guidance and leadership. Alright one can not expect the PM to issue statement after every act of rape has been committed but is Modi providing any leadership in the matter of communal riots in which his party seems to be prominent participant.??  Devinder.
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The Prime Minister of as large a country as India, with innumerable problems, and a government to run, cannot be an office boy who repondso every issue that arises. I expect he will talk to the country when he is ready. All political parties, especially those not accustomed to exercising power, have extremists and loud mouths like the ones mentioed by Mr Chopra. I am sure that a Prime Minister has better things to do than responding to each one of these madmen.
The party should have dealt with these people. It speaks of the low weight of Rajnath Singh and even Amit shah that they have not.
SLRAO

Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 11:13:38 +0530
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No Sire,
i tend not to agree, in whatever is and has been said on the subject.
WE as a nation, after independence, have become Impotent.
IF anyone disagrees -- can he/she say why such criminals
are not given the severest punishment ?

dev chopra in gurgaon
***


On 27 July 2014 18:40, Madhukar Thote <mythote@gmail.com> wrote:
why rapes are on the increase? Because there is no immediate severe punishment for the rapists.  Court Punishment takes years. Unless there is fear of the immediate strong action, the crimes in our country will be on the rise. Our laws are perhaps weak.
M.Y. Thote  


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 10:19 AM, <cdr.gandhi@gmail.com> wrote:
While I do not doubt the administrative skills and honest intensions to do good for the society. his silence on some of the serious incidents in the recent past have done him no good. He should have made clear and unequivocal statements on matters like 1. death of a muslim boy in Pune in the matter of face book entry about Shivsena Chief and Shivaji 2.behaviour of shiv sena MPs in Maharashtra sadan 3. statement of BJP leader from Telangana about Sania Mirza 4 Praveen Togadia,s statements  etc. Unless he condemns them openly and catagorically his image will suffer seriously. In fact losing all 3 by elections in Uttarakhand should send him a message....H C Gandhi 


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
 
 
To                                                                                                                                 
India Against Corruption
 
                                                                                                                               SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS
 
It is extremely disgusting to read repeatedly the nauseating news that even girls as young as three years are being abused by men, sometimes as old as sixty years. It turns one's stomach to hear news that  men  teachers molest the girl students even inside the school premises and fathers and brothers rape daughters and sisters. One wonders as to what is happening to the men folk in India, who are nothing but beasts.
Such condition is a direct reflection on the quality of governance that we have in India today and the type of people who sit as ministers , parliamentarians and legislators. What these beasts among men need are severe and life long punishment, which is the responsibility of the government to inflict on them.  But, some ministers laugh away at such incidents and condemn the media who expose these incidents and thus show that these politicians and ministers could themselves be the beasts, as they  treat these incidents light heartedly.
While  the politicians and the  ministers stand condemned , one person who comes to the mind of everyone immediately is the Prime Minister Mr. Narendra Modi.  What is he doing ? Why is he remaining silent ? Why is he not condemning these incidents in the strongest terms and ask the officials and  police to put down such incidents with all the force at their command. He is the Prime Minister and he has the duty and responsibility to protect the helpless girls and women.
By his silence , millions of people who voted for B JP government only based on expectations and faith  in Mr. Narendra Modi feel  helpless  and frustrated. One hopes Mr. Modi will wake up to his responsibility.
N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice For The Deprived
Chennai


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Re: [IAC#RG] SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS

If majority people believe your words, then ask the parliamentarian to pass the uniform civil code bill and put an end the religion based acts....
This will help us to act on problem based discussion instead of religion based discussion.

Ankit Khetan
India

On Jul 27, 2014 1:35 PM, Protyush Chatterjeesopedis <protyush.chatterjee@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Mr Gandhi,
> I am in full agreement with the points raised by you. Time and again politicians of the country, irrespective of party line, has put aspersions on Muslim citizens of this country. This is very humiliating. Why Sania Mirzas, and Sharukh Khans and the likes have to prove to Tom, Dik and Harry, their patriotism? Hindus have not taken the responsibility of this country. The country belongs as much to the Hindus as to the others. Yes, Narendra Modi have to show to the country that he is doing something against these idiots. The irony of this country is that politicians remain the same in every party.  
> Dr Protyush Chatterjee 
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 10:19 AM, <cdr.gandhi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> While I do not doubt the administrative skills and honest intensions to do good for the society. his silence on some of the serious incidents in the recent past have done him no good. He should have made clear and unequivocal statements on matters like 1. death of a muslim boy in Pune in the matter of face book entry about Shivsena Chief and Shivaji 2.behaviour of shiv sena MPs in Maharashtra sadan 3. statement of BJP leader from Telangana about Sania Mirza 4 Praveen Togadia,s statements  etc. Unless he condemns them openly and catagorically his image will suffer seriously. In fact losing all 3 by elections in Uttarakhand should send him a message....H C Gandhi 
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>  
>>>
>>> To                                                                                                                                 
>>>
>>> India Against Corruption
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>                                                                                                                                SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> It is extremely disgusting to read repeatedly the nauseating news that even girls as young as three years are being abused by men, sometimes as old as sixty years. It turns one's stomach to hear news that  men  teachers molest the girl students even inside the school premises and fathers and brothers rape daughters and sisters. One wonders as to what is happening to the men folk in India, who are nothing but beasts.
>>>
>>> Such condition is a direct reflection on the quality of governance that we have in India today and the type of people who sit as ministers , parliamentarians and legislators. What these beasts among men need are severe and life long punishment, which is the responsibility of the government to inflict on them.  But, some ministers laugh away at such incidents and condemn the media who expose these incidents and thus show that these politicians and ministers could themselves be the beasts, as they  treat these incidents light heartedly.
>>>
>>> While  the politicians and the  ministers stand condemned , one person who comes to the mind of everyone immediately is the Prime Minister Mr. Narendra Modi.  What is he doing ? Why is he remaining silent ? Why is he not condemning these incidents in the strongest terms and ask the officials and  police to put down such incidents with all the force at their command. He is the Prime Minister and he has the duty and responsibility to protect the helpless girls and women.
>>>
>>> By his silence , millions of people who voted for B JP government only based on expectations and faith  in Mr. Narendra Modi feel  helpless  and frustrated. One hopes Mr. Modi will wake up to his responsibility.
>>>
>>> N.S.Venkataraman
>>>
>>> Nandini Voice For The Deprived
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>>> Chennai
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RE: [IAC#RG] Kejriwal's dilema

Wow! What a suggestion.it is thinkers like you who have made AAP the laughing stock that it has become today. AAP had won the election riding on the plank of anti corruption against the then ruling party. You are suggesting, now come and join that very chorus.wow!brilliant.
Whatever little bit of creditabililty is left, they will lose that also.not because they join hands with congress but because they are going back on their words. They have already lost on governance.now they will lose on the creditability of their words too.
Sandhya sinha
Women's Political Forum

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From: "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Sent: July 29, 2014 3:00 AM
To: "indiaresists" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Subject: [IAC#RG] Kejriwal's dilema

Delhi Govt formation is make or break now for Aam Aadmi Party's
survival / existence.

Arvind should be realistic and form a coalition govt in Delhi with
Congress, even its for
just for 6 months and improve his personal image.

The alternative is that at least 9 of his MLAs will become very
neutral towards the BJP. since both BJP and AAP would lose many seats
in Delhi if elections are held today, and Congress would get AT LEAST
25 seats (out of 70) since LS results show AAP has lost its Muslim
votes.

Now if the AAP and Cong form a coalition, Arvind should tell all his
boys to keep very quiet and restrain their goonda / hooligan tactics
All these things are counter-productive IN THE LONG RUN. Arvind
himself should maintain a sphinx-like silence and show that he is
better at delivering good governance than Mr Modi in a MARKET DRIVEN
ECONOMY.

Sarbajit

Re: [IAC#RG] Kejriwal's dilema

With due respect to you Sarabjit ji, I can not understand the connect betwixt MARKET DRIVEN n aap party. They seem to be poles apart. The AAP vote bank is not the same.Do correct if am wrong.

On 29 Jul 2014 12:19, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Delhi Govt formation is make or break now for Aam Aadmi Party's
survival / existence.

Arvind should be realistic and form a coalition govt in Delhi with
Congress, even its for
just for 6 months and improve his personal image.

The alternative is that at least 9 of his MLAs will become very
neutral towards the BJP. since both BJP and AAP would lose many seats
in Delhi if elections are held today, and Congress would get AT LEAST
25 seats (out of 70) since LS results show AAP has lost its Muslim
votes.

Now if the AAP and Cong form a coalition, Arvind should tell all his
boys to keep very quiet and restrain their goonda / hooligan tactics
All these things are counter-productive IN THE LONG RUN. Arvind
himself should maintain a sphinx-like silence and show that he is
better at delivering good governance than Mr Modi in a MARKET DRIVEN
ECONOMY.

Sarbajit

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Re: [IAC#RG] SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS

Is Modi's silence more sacrosanct and meaningful than say Dr Manmohan Singh's. People look towards the PM for guidance and leadership. Alright one can not expect the PM to issue statement after every act of rape has been committed but is Modi providing any leadership in the matter of communal riots in which his party seems to be prominent participant.??  Devinder.
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Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 7:14 AM
Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS

The Prime Minister of as large a country as India, with innumerable problems, and a government to run, cannot be an office boy who repondso every issue that arises. I expect he will talk to the country when he is ready. All political parties, especially those not accustomed to exercising power, have extremists and loud mouths like the ones mentioed by Mr Chopra. I am sure that a Prime Minister has better things to do than responding to each one of these madmen.
The party should have dealt with these people. It speaks of the low weight of Rajnath Singh and even Amit shah that they have not.
SLRAO

Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 11:13:38 +0530
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS

No Sire,
i tend not to agree, in whatever is and has been said on the subject.
WE as a nation, after independence, have become Impotent.
IF anyone disagrees -- can he/she say why such criminals
are not given the severest punishment ?

dev chopra in gurgaon
***


On 27 July 2014 18:40, Madhukar Thote <mythote@gmail.com> wrote:
why rapes are on the increase? Because there is no immediate severe punishment for the rapists.  Court Punishment takes years. Unless there is fear of the immediate strong action, the crimes in our country will be on the rise. Our laws are perhaps weak.
M.Y. Thote  


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 10:19 AM, <cdr.gandhi@gmail.com> wrote:
While I do not doubt the administrative skills and honest intensions to do good for the society. his silence on some of the serious incidents in the recent past have done him no good. He should have made clear and unequivocal statements on matters like 1. death of a muslim boy in Pune in the matter of face book entry about Shivsena Chief and Shivaji 2.behaviour of shiv sena MPs in Maharashtra sadan 3. statement of BJP leader from Telangana about Sania Mirza 4 Praveen Togadia,s statements  etc. Unless he condemns them openly and catagorically his image will suffer seriously. In fact losing all 3 by elections in Uttarakhand should send him a message....H C Gandhi 


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
 
 
To                                                                                                                                 
India Against Corruption
 
                                                                                                                               SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS
 
It is extremely disgusting to read repeatedly the nauseating news that even girls as young as three years are being abused by men, sometimes as old as sixty years. It turns one's stomach to hear news that  men  teachers molest the girl students even inside the school premises and fathers and brothers rape daughters and sisters. One wonders as to what is happening to the men folk in India, who are nothing but beasts.
Such condition is a direct reflection on the quality of governance that we have in India today and the type of people who sit as ministers , parliamentarians and legislators. What these beasts among men need are severe and life long punishment, which is the responsibility of the government to inflict on them.  But, some ministers laugh away at such incidents and condemn the media who expose these incidents and thus show that these politicians and ministers could themselves be the beasts, as they  treat these incidents light heartedly.
While  the politicians and the  ministers stand condemned , one person who comes to the mind of everyone immediately is the Prime Minister Mr. Narendra Modi.  What is he doing ? Why is he remaining silent ? Why is he not condemning these incidents in the strongest terms and ask the officials and  police to put down such incidents with all the force at their command. He is the Prime Minister and he has the duty and responsibility to protect the helpless girls and women.
By his silence , millions of people who voted for B JP government only based on expectations and faith  in Mr. Narendra Modi feel  helpless  and frustrated. One hopes Mr. Modi will wake up to his responsibility.
N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice For The Deprived
Chennai


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