Re: [IAC#RG] vote for any party based on Prime Ministerial candidate

It appears that you are not taking into consideration the circumstances. The present circumstances are such that the people are completely fed up with the Congress and the cottary and the dynasty as also they were not so happy with the BJP under the leadership of Advani and the group and the reports were there that  BJP willl not get as many votes as it will get if it nominates Modi as its PM candidate. By the way, you have stated that experience has shown thatelecting a PM isbetter than imposing a PM in waiting. Will you cite an example of your so called experience?

 

V.S.Sardesai

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What is more embarrassing. A PM chosen by the party after its has fought and won an election or name one before the election and not win it. This leaves an eternal PM in waiting who looses a couple of elections and then you bring another one and make him a PM  candidate perhaps in waiting again. Experience has shown that electing a PM is better than imposing a PM in waiting.   Devinder

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I agree with you that we must know who is going to be our PM. It is absurd to say that the MLA/MP will choose .

Secondly only CM should be chossen from the MLA's only. No MP should be forced as an CM . If the MP has the guts he should run for the MLA.

RAJYA SHABHA MEMBERS SHOULD BE ELECTED FROM THE SAME STATE &NOT FROM OUTSIDE THE STATE. because these are members who are basically chamchas of the big bosses & they dont have the guts to fight elections 

PM term should not be more than two terms.

Party president also be not more than two terms 

Once a Governor he should not be allowed to fight any election & TERM should be maximum two terms.

No politician should be made governor .Please bring good beaurocrates /Army Generals ! Eminent scientist  to this post 

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                                     Vote for the party based on  the

                    Prime Ministerial  candidate in the parliamentary polls.

 

There are certainly much better persons in India today than Kejriwals, Raj Thackerays, Venugopals  (of TDP).   There are honest and productive  workers  consisting of scientists, engineers , economists and NGOs , who really contribute to the national growth in variety of ways.  Unfortunately, our media  do not take note of them but only focus on those indulging in antics, gimmicks  and rowdy behaviour in parliament, assemblies and in public life.

In view of such attitude of media , an impression prevails that India consist only of such elements, which is  affecting  the morale of the entire population and image of the country in the world.

Inspite of the corrupt politicians  and  bureaucracy, still a lot of good work is going on in the country and many Indians are increasingly being recognised internationally for their achievements , though Indian media may ignore them.  This is a sad state of affairs.

Certainly, a capable Prime Minister can bring about a  healthy climate  of growth and progress and bring respect to the country and government, where  quality Indians would be recognised and given encouragement and appropriate positions . When such  healthy   and progressive climate is built, it would inevitably lead to a situation where discredited persons cannot hold the country to ransom as at present.

Obviously, the country needs honest , strong and well  motivated Prime Minister who is ultimately responsible for all happenings in India in  one way or the other.

During the forthcoming parliamentary polls ,the electorate should be given a clear choice as to who would be the next Prime Minister  by the political outfits like Congress party and third front also

People should really  be given an opportunity to vote for  any party, based on the person projected as Prime Minister by the party.

India cannot afford government leadership of the present standards anymore, which mean that   the people would  have a choice  about the person becoming the Prime Minister  and  political coterie would not decide this.  

 

N.S.Venkataraman

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[IAC#RG] BJP's miscalculations and resultant damage

BJP's Costly Mistake

Modi’s countrywide effort of hard work has been ruined to a great extent by today’s action by the BJP in the parliament by supporting Telengana bill.

Modi himself has publicly stated that the division of Andhra Pradesh by congress is the perfect example of Zehar-ki- Kheti, today BJP joined hands with the same group, who divided the country and its people. Indeed in principle, BJP supports Telengana, but not in this manner done by congress. Alas, BJP has dirtied its hand so miserably; God only knows how to salvage from this situation.

By supporting T- Bill, BJP will never get any sympathy from TRS, while have antagonize a number of potential allies TDP, YRS congress, etc, whose support may come vital in Govt. formation 2014 (provided they miss 272). Many felt, how they could commit such a blunder and cause such great damage at the cost of Modi's hard work to regain the loss ground.

BJP could have waited till the elections, or not at this time; when emotions are high and everyone in the country are watching; how BJP behaves in a balanced manner, all that gone to drain today.

It is indeed a sad day for the country, when the country is yawning for a change to get rid of congress and some hope to bring back development and a strong leadership in Modi becoming the next PM, perhaps that has been gone. Wonder they could not feel the pulse of the people, much beyond the boundaries of AP.

BJP needs to go with times, sticking to principles, yet manage to gain from both sides.

A costly mistake at the cost Modi's great efforts, sad.

Dr K S Elangbam

Re: [IAC#RG] SHUTTING PARLIAMENT TO MEDIA IS HEIGHT OF CALLOUSNESS

Medical quote

I am not surprised how a person dies,

That is simple enough.

What I marvel is,how they go on living,

With organs failed,systems not working,and ,multiple maimed .

J.K.Chaudhry

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         SHUTTING PARLIAMENT TO MEDIA IS HEIGHT OF CALLOUSNESS

 

It is extremely shocking that UPA has been so callous  to shut the doors of parliament to media and visitors while passing the Telangana Bill. It has made some foolish calculation that its stage managed passing of Telangana Bill at any cost would help in the Telangana region in the forthcoming parliamentary poll.  This behaviour of UPA is in no way different from the act of Indira Gandhi  who  declared  emergency to  scuttle the  voice of the opposition parties.

 

It is obvious that the Congress party does not care about the public opinion anymore  and perhaps think, that it can take the country men for granted.  Mr. Manmohan Singh, who is supposed to be the Prime Minister of the country, who is technically responsible for all this ugly show stand disgraced in the eyes of the country  men.  It is a different matter that  no one in the government  thinks that it is necessary  to know his views on such issues. 

The speaker of the Loksabha  stands equally disgraced.

Large number of countrymen think that the democratic process in India has now gone for a toss.  

 

N.S.Venkataraman

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Re: [IAC#RG] SHUTTING PARLIAMENT TO MEDIA IS HEIGHT OF CALLOUSNESS

Are you and many others exaggerating the blackout of the Lok Sabha debate on the Telengana bill? After all over 200 print journalists were there, some of them the best in the country. Television is one medium, not all of it. SLRao

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         SHUTTING PARLIAMENT TO MEDIA IS HEIGHT OF CALLOUSNESS

 

It is extremely shocking that UPA has been so callous  to shut the doors of parliament to media and visitors while passing the Telangana Bill. It has made some foolish calculation that its stage managed passing of Telangana Bill at any cost would help in the Telangana region in the forthcoming parliamentary poll.  This behaviour of UPA is in no way different from the act of Indira Gandhi  who  declared  emergency to  scuttle the  voice of the opposition parties.

 

It is obvious that the Congress party does not care about the public opinion anymore  and perhaps think, that it can take the country men for granted.  Mr. Manmohan Singh, who is supposed to be the Prime Minister of the country, who is technically responsible for all this ugly show stand disgraced in the eyes of the country  men.  It is a different matter that  no one in the government  thinks that it is necessary  to know his views on such issues. 

The speaker of the Loksabha  stands equally disgraced.

Large number of countrymen think that the democratic process in India has now gone for a toss.  

 

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[IAC#RG] SHUTTING PARLIAMENT TO MEDIA IS HEIGHT OF CALLOUSNESS

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         SHUTTING PARLIAMENT TO MEDIA IS HEIGHT OF CALLOUSNESS

 

It is extremely shocking that UPA has been so callous  to shut the doors of parliament to media and visitors while passing the Telangana Bill. It has made some foolish calculation that its stage managed passing of Telangana Bill at any cost would help in the Telangana region in the forthcoming parliamentary poll.  This behaviour of UPA is in no way different from the act of Indira Gandhi  who  declared  emergency to  scuttle the  voice of the opposition parties.

 

It is obvious that the Congress party does not care about the public opinion anymore  and perhaps think, that it can take the country men for granted.  Mr. Manmohan Singh, who is supposed to be the Prime Minister of the country, who is technically responsible for all this ugly show stand disgraced in the eyes of the country  men.  It is a different matter that  no one in the government  thinks that it is necessary  to know his views on such issues. 

The speaker of the Loksabha  stands equally disgraced.

Large number of countrymen think that the democratic process in India has now gone for a toss.  

 

N.S.Venkataraman

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Re: [IAC#RG] Election Commission under pressure due to Maulik Bharat RTI and Notice

Namaskaar.

I wish to meet you , kindly confirm and give me time and place.

Regards

Col Thakur Singh

9873379995

On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Dr.Anoop Gupta <anoop12006@gmail.com> wrote:

Great job keep it up dear Anuj congratulations to the whole team of MAULIK BHARAT.

On Feb 16, 2014 3:28 PM, "Anuj Agrawal" <dialogueindia.in@gmail.com> wrote:

Respected Friends,

   Vandematram

   After Arvind Kejriwal resignation one more success to Maulik Bharat team. Thanks to Neeraj Saxena and Sanjeev Gupta effort. Now Election Commission is under pressure due to our RTI and Notice to EC (Copy Attached). Now EC start in the direction of election reform as we demand. Need of the time to speed-up it .

Thanks.

With regards

Anuj Agarwal

General Secretary

Maulik Bharat

www.maulikbharat.org

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Candidates can e-file nominations in Lok Sabha polls

Dialogue India Report -
 
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Ranchi: Candidates for the Lok Sabha elections would be able to e-file their nominations and affidavits, in a move aimed to bring about faster dissemination of information about the candidates, Election Commissioner H.S. Brahma said Saturday.

The e-filing, a web-based form, would be in addition to filing the nomination in paper form.

The Election Commission will soon ask the government to modify the current rules to make e-filing mandatory.

"This move of the ECI holds the potential to accelerate the process of dissemination of information regarding the criminal, financial, educational and other background details of candidates contesting elections," said a press release of the 10th Annual Conference on Electoral and Political Reforms.
 

Brahma recommended that it be used by the election commission in the upcoming polls to keep a check on malpractices like bribing of voters (by liquor distribution, cash etc)and excessive spending by candidates.

The tool will enable citizens to capture photographic evidence (with precise GPS location and time) of any wrongdoing in and around elections and report it instantaneously to the nearest election commission observers, said the statement.

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Re: [IAC#RG] vote for any party based on Prime Ministerial candidate

 Please read very carefully the Constitution of India amended more than 112 times.

The Prime Minister is elected by the electoral college consisting of elected representatives of both the houses of People and not based on the

party basis.

The person even not a citizen of India can be chosen as Prime Minster. Even if his/her parents do not belong to Indian Community.His/her name is listed in the electroll prepared by the Election Commission. People do not have Constitutional Right to challenge the data provided inthe Electroll roles prepared under the supervision of Chief Election Commission under Article 324.

Pandit Jawahar Lal Nehru was not the citizen of India declared under Article 84 (a) of the Constitution, so Smt. Indira Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi.

Dr. Man Mohan Singh is another glaring example. He is a Prime Minister of India for now Ten years. He was not domiciled at Assam after its formation as State.

He or his family members do not belong to Schedule Tribes of North Eastern area.

People Representation Act,1951 do not have sanction to over throw the Constitution as established by law. The Rules are framed to carry out the intrepretation of law and Statute. The Constitution is supreme claimed by the highest Judicial Authority. But is it correctly administer by any one for the last 66 years.

The hindi translation was printed after 1988. It was not accepted in Hindi language and is not respected in Hindi Devnagari at any Court of law established.

Prime Minister can throw the President ,if he/she do not follow his advice.

Former President of India had given his assent on fax paper to impose President Rule in Bihar.

 

Warm regards,

 

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Hi

There may be thousands in different fields. We should look for holistic individual who can hold the nation together of Million diversity of 1.3 billion people and not ignoring majority, minority or any other sectarian groups for whatever reason the individual may have. It must be INDIA FIRST and INDIA TILL THE LAST. We should cultivate the habit of important national interest should have a NATIONAL DEBATE at EVERY DISTRICT LEVEL not in a TV channel only. We should take cull cross section opinion before the bill is prepared and goes to parliament.  

Only a responsible national party with reach all over should field candidates, if not it will be a LARGE POT of 500 plus FORCES  PULLING THE PARLIAMENT in to different directions for which we must guard against. 

A WEAK PM and his PARTY will do exactly what has happened to India for the last 2 terms of parliament. Under these circumstances greed plays a major factor to hold power as he and the party becomes helpless and will over look all the misdeeds of their supporters. PM we will call WEAK, who made him weak, we have made him weak by no providing the required numbers for him to take the required decisions. We the citizens are equally responsible.

We had put up a CANDIDATE in the year 2006 to corporation election and we won. It was a good experiment but according to most of the supporters felt, we failed to get the desired result of implementation of policy matters,in spite of an honest candidate. Candidate did not have  of the support of the required numbers at the corporation meetings.

The party with a vision must be supported and not the only candidate. Candidates with doubtful background manupulate by puting up their spouse or children as candidates and control the candidate which we should resist by not electing such candidates, or parties. Independents and small regional parties can only harm the democracy than do any good. With huge money bags of some parties will be able to do unimaginable harm as it happened for the last two terms of parliament.

Manohar Prikar govt. in Goa survived because he has reasonable majority if not he would have been sitting in opposition by now as he himself claimed in one of the meetings recently in Mumbai.

Bajpai govt. had large number of parties supporting and exerting undue pressure from all sides. It becomes difficult for a govt. to take any bold, necessary, desired decisions FOR AND THE NATIONAL  interest you need to take AND you must take. In most difficult times these individuals and parties ask for different benefits or a package for the themselves leaving the national interest to ransom.

Regads 

Vishwanath Mada

  

Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:42:14 +0530
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Subject: [IAC#RG] vote for any party based on Prime Ministerial candidate

To

 

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                                     Vote for the party based on  the

                    Prime Ministerial  candidate in the parliamentary polls.

 

There are certainly much better persons in India today than Kejriwals, Raj Thackerays, Venugopals  (of TDP).   There are honest and productive  workers  consisting of scientists, engineers , economists and NGOs , who really contribute to the national growth in variety of ways.  Unfortunately, our media  do not take note of them but only focus on those indulging in antics, gimmicks  and rowdy behaviour in parliament, assemblies and in public life.

In view of such attitude of media , an impression prevails that India consist only of such elements, which is  affecting  the morale of the entire population and image of the country in the world.

Inspite of the corrupt politicians  and  bureaucracy, still a lot of good work is going on in the country and many Indians are increasingly being recognised internationally for their achievements , though Indian media may ignore them.  This is a sad state of affairs.

Certainly, a capable Prime Minister can bring about a  healthy climate  of growth and progress and bring respect to the country and government, where  quality Indians would be recognised and given encouragement and appropriate positions . When such  healthy   and progressive climate is built, it would inevitably lead to a situation where discredited persons cannot hold the country to ransom as at present.

Obviously, the country needs honest , strong and well  motivated Prime Minister who is ultimately responsible for all happenings in India in  one way or the other.

During the forthcoming parliamentary polls ,the electorate should be given a clear choice as to who would be the next Prime Minister  by the political outfits like Congress party and third front also

People should really  be given an opportunity to vote for  any party, based on the person projected as Prime Minister by the party.

India cannot afford government leadership of the present standards anymore, which mean that   the people would  have a choice  about the person becoming the Prime Minister  and  political coterie would not decide this.  

 

N.S.Venkataraman

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