Friday, September 27, 2013

RE: [IAC#RG] RTI Act (Amendment) Bill 2013

Right time to press for this when elections are around the corner.Rahul said
that the ordinance on convicted politicians was nonsense with the elections
facing him like a giant. Now we must ensure that we get the support of at
least one political party other than AAM ADMI PARTY we can surely break the
consensus now existing !! Let us get busy. Now or never . Ask Anna to give
statements . I wonder why he has become so quiet now.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net] On Behalf Of DR MC GEORGE
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 12:56 PM
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] RTI Act (Amendment) Bill 2013

Hello friends
Thanks and congratulations for your adament fight for public cause
of social relevance. In the instant case we - INFAM - has the firm opinion
that political parties are 'public institutions' eligible to be brought
under the scrutiny of the RTI Act. They choose legislatures from whom the
very executive makes its origin and the entire power structure is centred
around political parties. They issue directions to legislatures and have got
authority to give 'whip' which has to be obeyed strictly as otherwise they
will lose their status as legislatures. Having such super power status to
form, lead and run the executive authority under whose control and hegmony
everything related to administration happens they should not be left from
under the purview of RTI Act. If the president's/prime minister's office is
included with in the ambit of RTI how can anybody think of excluding the
'creator' of all these institutions and having such vast controlling powers
over them (impeachment in the case of president.) get exclusion.
Please be good enough to share the format of the
memmoranda/sugestions to us also for guidance and form part of the
initiatives. Thanks again and best wishes.
Dr.M.C.GEORGE,ADVOCATE,INFAM(IndianFarmersMovement)National Trustee.
N.B. INFAM is an organisation of farmers especially small and marginal ones
and strives for the empowerment and overall development of farm sector
village communities.

--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 27/9/13, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] RTI Act (Amendment) Bill 2013
To: sahoo.ak@sansad.nic.in, "Shantaram Naik" <shantaramgoa@gmail.com>,
rs-cpers@sansad.nic.in, "indiaresists" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>,
"ncpri" <ncpri@googlegroups.com>
Date: Friday, 27 September, 2013, 11:28 AM

To:
Joint Secretary (PPG)

Rajya Sabha

27-Sep-2013



BY
EMAIL

Dear Sir(s)

We thank you for the very prompt action taken on our email representation
dt. 26.09.2013 to upload the Press Release and Last Date for filing (Oct 6
2013) for the subject Bill to the Rajya Sabha's official website.


We are now circulating the uploaded attachment to our national membership
for their comments which we expect to file expeditiously.

With best
wishes.


( Er. Sarbajit Roy
)

National Convenor : India Against Corruption, jan andolan


National Convenor : National Campaign for Political Reform in India

www.indiaagainstcorruption.net.in


www.ncpri.org

Mailing address:

2nd
floor, B-59 Defence Colony

New Delhi 110024

Tel : 011-24334262





On Thu, Sep 26, 2013
at 2:02 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
wrote:

To:
Joint Secretary (PPG)


Rajya Sabha

26-Sep-2013



BY
EMAIL

Sir

This refers our telecon today.



I am given to understand that the subject Bill is referred to your
Departmental Committee for further consideration.

I am further given to understand that a public notice inviting comments
from affected persons was published on 21 Sept 2013 in some newspapers, but
I could not access the same as newspapers have become very expensive
nowadays for ordinary citizens, and also thanks to the UPA Govt.
(under directions of  Hon'ble Chairperson UPA) the citizens like
undersigned since 2005 have been used to getting such relevant information
about Govt. free of cost under the Right to Information over the Internet
suo-moto.



It seems, however, that this important
Amendment Bill's public notice has not been uploaded to website and the
last date for responding is also not specified in Rajya Sabha website.
Ordinarily I would be the last person to attribute any ulterior motives for
this oversight where the aam aadmi is being excluded from Parliamentary
consultative processes by non-disclosure by the very same authority which
passed this beneficial legislation, but seeing as how this amendment is
directly for the benefit of members of the Houses, I am constrained to
formally protest this curious oversight.



Accordingly, I request you to kindly put it up to the Honble Committee to
extend the date for submitting comments for at least 15 days after it the
public notice is uploaded to the website.



In any case, in the interim, I wish to submit on behalf of the National
Campaign for Political Reform in India (NCPRI) and the India Against
Corruption andolan, both movements of which I happen to be the present
National Convenor of, as follows:-



1) That political parties are presently not public authorities as defined
in RTI Act 2005. That the operative judgment on which the CIC (Central
Information
Commission) order of 03-June-2013 is based ie.
"Veeresh Malik versus Indian Olympic
Association" was in the case of the co-convenor of the above 2 movements,
and has been comprehensively misinterpreted by the CIC.



2) That the CIC decision dt. 03-June-2013 is a mischievous and legally
unsound decision delivered, for extraneous considerations, by incompetent
persons on the verge of retirement, who were all appointed under an opaque
discretionary process best described as "horse trading".



3) That there is an urgent need to lay down proper qualifications and
transparent selection procedures for appointment of Information
Commissioners of proven merit and integrity, so that such kind of corrupt
decisions do not again emanate from the Information Commissions.



4) That the RTI Act 2005 requires to be urgently amended in a transparent
manner after wide public consultation to sort out many inherent obstacles
and grey areas which are obstructing the citizens from receiving
information. This may include specifically defining therein that political
parties shall be public authority, for purposes of the RTI Act, along with
all private and semi-public bodies performing public activities.



We may be submitting our detailed submissions once the public notice is
available to us for perusal and discussed by our nationwide membership.



Our movements would also like to personally appear before the Hon'ble
Committee and make our presentations in person. We woudl be obliged if you
would kindly place this communication on the record of the Hon'ble
Committee for this Bill.



With best regards

( Er. Sarbajit Roy )

National Convenor : India Against Corruption, jan andolan


National Convenor : National Campaign for Political Reform in India

www.indiaagainstcorruption.net.in


www.ncpri.org

Mailing address:

2nd
floor, B-59 Defence Colony

New Delhi 110024

Tel : 011-24334262






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Re: [IAC#RG] Violation of "National Anti-Corruption Strategy" by DoPT officers.

Sarbjit ji, namaskar.
IAC is a strong forum to fight against corruption and people like you have been doing a wonderful work. Although, i wanted to be part of such an organization but due to time constraints i am unable to do so. Hopefully, in an year or so i would manage to do so.
Since, i am the incharge of " Dastawez" special political Edition of our Newspaper, Roznama Rashtriya Sahara, i used to publish interviews (mostly telephonic) on current socio-political and economic issues.
Corruption is one of the most sought after issue in our country. So, in coming days we might again bring our special edition on this topic. If so, your views will be important for that edition.
So, if you have no issue in providing me your contact number pls give it to me in the reply of this email.
Thanks & regards.
Jeelani


On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:53 PM, M.N.Seshadri <manavasi.seshadri@gmail.com> wrote:
Hullo    Pl quickly ask Rahul about RTI  being made applicable for political
parties . I would like to ask a dozen questions . I am sure he would like to
take the lead in agreeing to this after he condemned in a hurry the
ordinance to protect the convicted guys !!! Seshadri

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From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net
[mailto:indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 12:46 PM
To: G.S. Beniwal; indiaresists
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Violation of "National Anti-Corruption Strategy" by
DoPT officers.

Dear Mr. Beniwal

It is of the CVC (Central Vigilance Commission) - which is administratively
under DoPT.
http://www.cvc.nic.in/nacs26082010.htm

BUT, the NACS is an extremely badly drafted document which has been drawn up
by some NGOs and corrupt ex-babus. It is still in "final draft" form since
2010 and it is a major embarrassment to DoPT and UPA.

So I am only using it to "poke" DoPT.
Hope this clarifies.

Sarbajit

On 9/27/13, G.S. Beniwal <beniwalg@ymail.com> wrote:
> Roy sir, may i know which authority  issued this policy and does this
policy
> applies to MoD/departments ?.   rgds. beniwal (66yrs)
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> To: secy_mop <secy_mop@nic.in>; jsata <jsata@nic.in>; jsv-dopt
> <jsv-dopt@nic.in>; indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
> Sent: Friday, 27 September 2013 6:58 AM
> Subject: [IAC#RG] Violation of "National Anti-Corruption Strategy" by
> DoPT officers.
>
>


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Re:[IAC#RG]

And by the way who raked the issue? 
Wasn't it the Govt who went to press to say that the Ex Chief tried to use money to topple the Govt out there?
So if the chief is clarifying his posn what wrong?

Let "senior government functionary speaking on the condition of anonymity" have balls and come out in open to charge what is true and just.

rgds
rahul



On Friday, 27 September 2013 4:45 PM, Ranjit <ranjitrai123@gmail.com> wrote:
Absolutely right ..Bhanotmadan. ...World wide  Governments have to trust Intelligence Agencies and never go deep in to their funds once allocated as most trusted persons should be placed as Int Heads and they should be tasked for tasks and  to GET inputs that the state and military needs. That needs oversight and as no tasking is done with no oversight political committee and now we have 8 Int Agencies the funds were used indiscriminately and will continue till some PM like Mrs G or Vajpayee come to use intelligence for national goals.


Till I worked in Intelligence no tasking was done so spending is Lassez Faire , and the Subject should be closed......Army Chiefs inquiring and then talking about the Int Funds is anti national

RR

Sent from my iPad

On 27-Sep-2013, at 9:51 AM, Madan Bhanot <bhanotmadan@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi there,
Very interesting. U must know that MI fund has always been spent at total discretion of the Chief. Meant for untold MI expenses that is not audit-able. Why bellyache after he has demitted the office."Dam tha to uswaqt pakadte", any rash action at this point may open the pandora's box as there may be many skeletons in the cupboard.

Madan Bhanot


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:33 PM, <javedmansari@gmail.com> wrote:


Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
Sent: Wednesday 25 September 2013 13:35
To: Assignment; Ajay Dixit; Rahul Headlines Today; itgd ed; vikram.kilpady@intoday.com
Subject:


Senior government functionaries voiced their angst against former Army chief V K Singh for his recent utterances. " his statements have caused us irreparable damage besides ofcourse undermining the democratic process in Jammu and Kashmir". 
 The Government has taken a very serious view of Genl V K Singh's recent statements about the Army paying politicians in Kashmir and intends to order an inquiry. " There needs to be an inquiry into whether money was indeed distributed and if so where did it go". The government is yet to decide about who will conduct the inquiry but sources say it will not be the CBI .

The general consensus in the upper echelons of the Government is that the generals "irresponsible statement" has come at an inopportune time for the government and put it in an embarrassing position ahead of the talks with Pakistan scheduled for Sunday. 
General V K Singh had an extremely prickly relationship with the UPA government even when he was the Army chief and the relationship has progressively detoriated after he demitted office. At one point of time during his standoff with the government, the political leadership toyed with the idea of dismissing him, but it was the intervention of Defence Minister A K Antony that disuaded the government from going ahead. The feeling amongst the governments senior functionaries now is that V K Singh's "reckless" statement has seriously compromised the nations interests in addition to providing Pakistan and the likes of the Hurriyat an issue to embarass the country. 
A senior government functionary speaking on the condition of anonynimity said that Singh's statement needed to be inquired into because " the Army has no business paying off civilians".It was evident from the tone and tenor of senior government officials that this time the government intends posing some uncomfortable questions to Genl V K Singh " we need to find out whether payments were made and if it's true who authorised these payments and who the real beneficiaries were". 
from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.


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[IAC#RG] WILL MANMOHAN SINGH RESIGN NOW ?

 To

India Against Corruption


                                     WILL  MANMOHAN SINGH  RESIGN  NOW  ?


Rahul Gandhi has termed  the ordinance  to undo the Supreme court verdict on convicted persons from sitting in assemblies and parliament  as nonsense and said it should be thrown away.

While , by this statement Rahul Gandhi has tried to improve his public image , what about the public image of Manmohan Singh?  When the Vice President of the leading party in the UPA  makes  such strong  statement in public , Manmohan Singh has to react.

The option for him  is either to defend his decision to issue an ordinance  or  submit his resignation protesting against  the outburst of Rahul Gandhi in public .

At the fag end of UPA II  facing all round criticism, Rahul Gandhi has given  Manmohan Singh  an  opportunity to redeem his image by quitting on a matter of principle  where the Prime Minister's decision  is being questioned by the Vice President  of  his own party.


N.S.Venkataraman

Email:- nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com

  

RE:[IAC#RG]

Here  the  Govt. has  purposely  leaked out the secret  documents to tarnish the image  of   General  V.K Singh, not only  because he shared the dais with Modi, but also because he extended his support to the anti-corruption movement of Anna Hazare and Baba Ramdev.  It is  also  meant to divert  the attention of the people from  the news  of dilution  of  the Nuclear Liability  Bill , which  was kept as secret  by PMO  . Fortunately, that note  has also  come into the  public domain . Naturally, the   General  has to defend  himself   by  divulging the   facts.  So first they should find  out  how the  secret file  was leaked  out.  I have  no hesitation  in saying   that there  are ISI agents   in  the Defence ministry  to  tarnish the image of our  Army.  This country is in real danger under the UPA  Govt. 
Tcg


From: ranjitrai123@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 12:50:43 +0530
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net; javedmansari@gmail.com; bhanotmadan@gmail.com
Subject: Re:[IAC#RG]

Absolutely right ..Bhanotmadan. ...World wide  Governments have to trust Intelligence Agencies and never go deep in to their funds once allocated as most trusted persons should be placed as Int Heads and they should be tasked for tasks and  to GET inputs that the state and military needs. That needs oversight and as no tasking is done with no oversight political committee and now we have 8 Int Agencies the funds were used indiscriminately and will continue till some PM like Mrs G or Vajpayee come to use intelligence for national goals.


Till I worked in Intelligence no tasking was done so spending is Lassez Faire , and the Subject should be closed......Army Chiefs inquiring and then talking about the Int Funds is anti national

RR

Sent from my iPad

On 27-Sep-2013, at 9:51 AM, Madan Bhanot <bhanotmadan@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi there,
Very interesting. U must know that MI fund has always been spent at total discretion of the Chief. Meant for untold MI expenses that is not audit-able. Why bellyache after he has demitted the office."Dam tha to uswaqt pakadte", any rash action at this point may open the pandora's box as there may be many skeletons in the cupboard.

Madan Bhanot


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:33 PM, <javedmansari@gmail.com> wrote:


Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
Sent: Wednesday 25 September 2013 13:35
To: Assignment; Ajay Dixit; Rahul Headlines Today; itgd ed; vikram.kilpady@intoday.com
Subject:


Senior government functionaries voiced their angst against former Army chief V K Singh for his recent utterances. " his statements have caused us irreparable damage besides ofcourse undermining the democratic process in Jammu and Kashmir". 
 The Government has taken a very serious view of Genl V K Singh's recent statements about the Army paying politicians in Kashmir and intends to order an inquiry. " There needs to be an inquiry into whether money was indeed distributed and if so where did it go". The government is yet to decide about who will conduct the inquiry but sources say it will not be the CBI .

The general consensus in the upper echelons of the Government is that the generals "irresponsible statement" has come at an inopportune time for the government and put it in an embarrassing position ahead of the talks with Pakistan scheduled for Sunday. 
General V K Singh had an extremely prickly relationship with the UPA government even when he was the Army chief and the relationship has progressively detoriated after he demitted office. At one point of time during his standoff with the government, the political leadership toyed with the idea of dismissing him, but it was the intervention of Defence Minister A K Antony that disuaded the government from going ahead. The feeling amongst the governments senior functionaries now is that V K Singh's "reckless" statement has seriously compromised the nations interests in addition to providing Pakistan and the likes of the Hurriyat an issue to embarass the country. 
A senior government functionary speaking on the condition of anonynimity said that Singh's statement needed to be inquired into because " the Army has no business paying off civilians".It was evident from the tone and tenor of senior government officials that this time the government intends posing some uncomfortable questions to Genl V K Singh " we need to find out whether payments were made and if it's true who authorised these payments and who the real beneficiaries were". 
from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.


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RE: [IAC#RG] Violation of "National Anti-Corruption Strategy" by DoPT officers.

Hullo Pl quickly ask Rahul about RTI being made applicable for political
parties . I would like to ask a dozen questions . I am sure he would like to
take the lead in agreeing to this after he condemned in a hurry the
ordinance to protect the convicted guys !!! Seshadri

-----Original Message-----
From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net
[mailto:indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 12:46 PM
To: G.S. Beniwal; indiaresists
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Violation of "National Anti-Corruption Strategy" by
DoPT officers.

Dear Mr. Beniwal

It is of the CVC (Central Vigilance Commission) - which is administratively
under DoPT.
http://www.cvc.nic.in/nacs26082010.htm

BUT, the NACS is an extremely badly drafted document which has been drawn up
by some NGOs and corrupt ex-babus. It is still in "final draft" form since
2010 and it is a major embarrassment to DoPT and UPA.

So I am only using it to "poke" DoPT.
Hope this clarifies.

Sarbajit

On 9/27/13, G.S. Beniwal <beniwalg@ymail.com> wrote:
> Roy sir, may i know which authority issued this policy and does this
policy
> applies to MoD/departments ?. rgds. beniwal (66yrs)
>
> ________________________________
> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> To: secy_mop <secy_mop@nic.in>; jsata <jsata@nic.in>; jsv-dopt
> <jsv-dopt@nic.in>; indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
> Sent: Friday, 27 September 2013 6:58 AM
> Subject: [IAC#RG] Violation of "National Anti-Corruption Strategy" by
> DoPT officers.
>
>

Re: [IAC#RG] RTI Act (Amendment) Bill 2013

Hello friends
Thanks and congratulations for your adament fight for public cause of social relevance. In the instant case we - INFAM - has the firm opinion that political parties are 'public institutions' eligible to be brought under the scrutiny of the RTI Act. They choose legislatures from whom the very executive makes its origin and the entire power structure is centred around political parties. They issue directions to legislatures and have got authority to give 'whip' which has to be obeyed strictly as otherwise they will lose their status as legislatures. Having such super power status to form, lead and run the executive authority under whose control and hegmony everything related to administration happens they should not be left from under the purview of RTI Act. If the president's/prime minister's office is included with in the ambit of RTI how can anybody think of excluding the 'creator' of all these institutions and having such vast controlling
powers over them (impeachment in the case of president.) get exclusion.
Please be good enough to share the format of the memmoranda/sugestions to us also for guidance and form part of the initiatives. Thanks again and best wishes.
Dr.M.C.GEORGE,ADVOCATE,INFAM(IndianFarmersMovement)National Trustee.
N.B. INFAM is an organisation of farmers especially small and marginal ones and strives for the empowerment and overall development of farm sector village communities.

--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 27/9/13, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] RTI Act (Amendment) Bill 2013
To: sahoo.ak@sansad.nic.in, "Shantaram Naik" <shantaramgoa@gmail.com>, rs-cpers@sansad.nic.in, "indiaresists" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>, "ncpri" <ncpri@googlegroups.com>
Date: Friday, 27 September, 2013, 11:28 AM

To:
Joint Secretary (PPG)

Rajya Sabha

27-Sep-2013



BY
EMAIL

Dear Sir(s)

We thank you for the very prompt action taken
on our email representation dt. 26.09.2013 to upload the
Press Release and Last Date for filing (Oct 6 2013) for the
subject Bill to the Rajya Sabha's official website.


We are now circulating the uploaded attachment to our
national membership for their comments which we expect to
file expeditiously.

With best
wishes.


( Er. Sarbajit Roy
)

National Convenor : India Against Corruption,
jan andolan


National Convenor : National Campaign for
Political Reform in India

www.indiaagainstcorruption.net.in


www.ncpri.org

Mailing address:

2nd
floor, B-59 Defence Colony

New Delhi 110024

Tel : 011-24334262





On Thu, Sep 26, 2013
at 2:02 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
wrote:

To:
Joint Secretary (PPG)


Rajya Sabha

26-Sep-2013



BY
EMAIL

Sir

This refers our telecon today.



I am given to understand that the subject Bill is referred
to your Departmental Committee for further consideration.

I am further given to understand that a public
notice inviting comments from affected persons was published
on 21 Sept 2013 in some newspapers, but I could not access
the same as newspapers have become very expensive nowadays
for ordinary citizens, and also thanks to the UPA Govt.
(under directions of  Hon'ble Chairperson UPA) the
citizens like undersigned since 2005 have been used to
getting such relevant information about Govt. free of cost
under the Right to Information over the Internet suo-moto.



It seems, however, that this important
Amendment Bill's public notice has not been uploaded to
website and the last date for responding is also not
specified in Rajya Sabha website. Ordinarily I would be the
last person to attribute any ulterior motives for this
oversight where the aam aadmi is being excluded from
Parliamentary consultative processes by non-disclosure by
the very same authority which passed this beneficial
legislation, but seeing as how this amendment is directly
for the benefit of members of the Houses, I am constrained
to formally protest this curious oversight.



Accordingly, I request you to kindly put it up
to the Honble Committee to extend the date for submitting
comments for at least 15 days after it the public notice is
uploaded to the website.



In any case, in the interim, I wish to submit
on behalf of the National Campaign for Political Reform
in India (NCPRI) and the India Against Corruption
andolan, both movements of which I happen to be the
present National Convenor of, as follows:-



1) That political parties are presently not
public authorities as defined in RTI Act 2005. That the
operative judgment on which the CIC (Central Information
Commission) order of 03-June-2013 is based ie.
"Veeresh Malik versus Indian Olympic
Association" was in the case of the co-convenor of
the above 2 movements, and has been comprehensively
misinterpreted by the CIC.



2) That the CIC decision dt. 03-June-2013 is a mischievous
and legally unsound decision delivered, for extraneous
considerations, by incompetent persons on the verge of
retirement, who were all appointed under an opaque
discretionary process best described as "horse
trading".



3) That there is an urgent need to lay down
proper qualifications and transparent selection procedures
for appointment of Information Commissioners of proven merit
and integrity, so that such kind of corrupt decisions do not
again emanate from the Information Commissions.



4) That the RTI Act 2005 requires to be
urgently amended in a transparent manner after wide public
consultation to sort out many inherent obstacles and grey
areas which are obstructing the citizens from receiving
information. This may include specifically defining therein
that political parties shall be public authority, for
purposes of the RTI Act, along with all private and
semi-public bodies performing public activities.



We may be submitting our detailed submissions
once the public notice is available to us for perusal and
discussed by our nationwide membership.



Our movements would also like to personally
appear before the Hon'ble Committee and make our
presentations in person. We woudl be obliged if you would
kindly place this communication on the record of the
Hon'ble Committee for this Bill.



With best regards

( Er. Sarbajit Roy )

National Convenor : India Against Corruption,
jan andolan


National Convenor : National Campaign for
Political Reform in India

www.indiaagainstcorruption.net.in


www.ncpri.org

Mailing address:

2nd
floor, B-59 Defence Colony

New Delhi 110024

Tel : 011-24334262






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