Re: [IAC#RG] Alternatives to parliamentary democracy ?

Brother

There are numerous areas in Hindustan which have been liberated from the forces of neo-imperialism to implement people's democracy.

You can see for yourself from the recent Indian elections in Gujarat that the imperialist forces have been sufficiently driven into the urban zones where they can be easily beseiged and liberated by the toiling masses.

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 1:39 PM, Rangarajan Mathre <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

 Great idea - Has it been practiced (to your satisfaction) anywhere in the world even in a small scale, where we can get inspiration? Otherwise it is only utopian - just your wish

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From: Jatin Bagha <jatin.jugantar@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2018 11:40 AM
Subject: [IAC#RG] Alternatives to parliamentary democracy ?

The alternative to parliamentary democracy is people's democracy where it is the people, and not a few moneybags, who decide the destiny of the country and their own lives.

Peoples democracy is seen from the grassroots level to the top and not vice versa. Here, people are supreme and decisions are made through gram sabhas, assemblies of the people and not by invisible hands.

Re: [IAC#RG] Alternatives to parliamentary democracy ?

 Great idea - Has it been practiced (to your satisfaction) anywhere in the world even in a small scale, where we can get inspiration? Otherwise it is only utopian - just your wish

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From: Jatin Bagha <jatin.jugantar@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2018 11:40 AM
Subject: [IAC#RG] Alternatives to parliamentary democracy ?

The alternative to parliamentary democracy is people's democracy where it is the people, and not a few moneybags, who decide the destiny of the country and their own lives.

Peoples democracy is seen from the grassroots level to the top and not vice versa. Here, people are supreme and decisions are made through gram sabhas, assemblies of the people and not by invisible hands.

The aim of Peoples democracy is to overthrow feudalism and achieve independence from colonialism. It is a revolution that will bury the capitalist system and all other systems of exploitation once and for all.

"The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear." In an era of severe austerity, rising inequalities and precarious employment, the discontent engendered is leading to morbid symptoms in the form of the rise of extreme rightwing and neo-Nazi forces. Racism, xenophobia and anti-migrant feelings are being whipped up".

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Re: [IAC#RG] Hindu Samaj celebrates the Christian New Year by fiilng a RTI to VP Venkaiah Naidu

2/1/18

It is high time that questions about the cost of travel of the V.P and the need for him to travel every other day to the South  even for routine functions/inauguration/book release are raised. Is it a part of the BJP stategy to deny functionaries of the nonBJP states their due share?

DD has now become a tool for projecting the PM,UP chief Minister and the V.P.

The Pm visited Gujrat for more than 50 times for holding election ralies and inauguration of ferry services.Similar questions should be raised about the cost of travel, security and who bears the cost? Legitimately it should be the political party .Regds

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Sent: Monday, January 1, 2018 1:12 PM
To: indiaresists
Subject: [IAC#RG] Hindu Samaj celebrates the Christian New Year by fiilng a RTI to VP Venkaiah Naidu

 

Online RTI Request Form Details

RTI Request Details :-

RTI Request Registration number	VPSEC/R/2018/50001
Public Authority	Vice-President Secretariat

Personal Details of RTI Applicant:-

Name	Sarbajit Roy
Gender	Male
Address	c/o Hindu Samaj of India , B-59 Defence Colony, New Delhi
Pincode	110024
Country	India
State	Delhi

(Description of Information sought (upto 500 characters) Description of Information Sought

Please provide me following information

1. Information if public statements being made by Sh Venkaiah Naidu (Vice President) on singing Bande Mataram are in his personal capacity or his official capacity

2. Information if Sh Venkaiah Naidu attended a function in Chennai around 10 Dec 2017 for 96th birth anniversary of poet Subramania Bharati in his official capacity or personal capacity and who bore cost of visit

3. Information if any rebuttal or rejonder has been issued about remarks attributed to Shri Naidu in news reports like - Do not understand problem in singing Vande Mataram, says Vice President M Venkaiah Naidu - circulated by PTI on 10 Dec 2017

4. Information if Shri Venkaiah Naidu attended a function in Shirdi around 23 Dec 2017 for Saibaba Temple Trust in his official capacity or his personal capacity and who bore cost of visit

5. Information if any rebuttal or rejonder has been issued about remarks attributed to Shri Naidu in news reports like - Why should Vande Mataram rendition bother anybody, asks Vice-President Venkaiah Naidu - circulated by PTI on 23 Dec 2017

6. Information if Shri Venkaiah Naidu attended a function in New Delhi on or about 8 Dec 2017 for event to release a book on former VHP chief late Ashok Singhal in his official capacity or personal capacity and who bore cost of visit

7. Information if any rebuttal or rejonder has been issued about remarks attributed to Shri Naidu in news reports like - Venkaiah Naidu on Vande Mataram, If not your mother, would you salute Afzal Guru - circulated by PTI on 8 Dec 2017

8. Information that the Vice President of India was aware, or made aware, that the song / poem Bande Mataram is a part of the book/novel Anandmath by Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay

9. Information that the Vice President of India was aware, or made aware, that conclusion of the book/novel Anandmath is that the motherland of Hindustan represented by Bharat Mata is only fit to be ruled by the English and that all believers of the True Faith / National religion must submit to the English or adopt Christianity as their religion

10. Information if it is the Government of Indias objective, expressed by Shri Venkaiah Naidu by making such several public statements implying that it is anti-national not to sing Bande Mataram, to reimpose English rule on India

11. Information if it is the Government of Indias objective, expressed by Shri Venkaiah Naidu by making such several public statements implying that it is anti-national not to sing Bande Mataram, to convert Hindu religionists into Christians

12. Information of the official instructions, specifying that National Anthem is to be played when Vice President of India arrives and departs from functions where he is Chief Guest

13. Reason/s why National Anthem was played twice for Vice President at Central Information Commission function on 6 Dec 2017 at New Delhi when he is apparently not entitled to have it played even once for himself

Re: [IAC#RG] Alternatives to parliamentary democracy ?

It may be impossible to have peoples democracy as the big wigs will always create their own way . In election for members of Zilla Panchayats , 50 % seats are reserved for ladies. These are manipulated in such a way that  ladies elected as members are controlled by their husbands / father . They have to sign on dotted lines and have no say at all because most of them are illiterate having no knowledge of their authority as elected members.

Brig J S Ahuja 

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 11:33 AM, Jatin Bagha <jatin.jugantar@gmail.com> wrote:

The alternative to parliamentary democracy is people's democracy where it is the people, and not a few moneybags, who decide the destiny of the country and their own lives.

Peoples democracy is seen from the grassroots level to the top and not vice versa. Here, people are supreme and decisions are made through gram sabhas, assemblies of the people and not by invisible hands.

The aim of Peoples democracy is to overthrow feudalism and achieve independence from colonialism. It is a revolution that will bury the capitalist system and all other systems of exploitation once and for all.

"The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear." In an era of severe austerity, rising inequalities and precarious employment, the discontent engendered is leading to morbid symptoms in the form of the rise of extreme rightwing and neo-Nazi forces. Racism, xenophobia and anti-migrant feelings are being whipped up".

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[IAC#RG] Alternatives to parliamentary democracy ?

The alternative to parliamentary democracy is people's democracy where it is the people, and not a few moneybags, who decide the destiny of the country and their own lives.

Peoples democracy is seen from the grassroots level to the top and not vice versa. Here, people are supreme and decisions are made through gram sabhas, assemblies of the people and not by invisible hands.

The aim of Peoples democracy is to overthrow feudalism and achieve independence from colonialism. It is a revolution that will bury the capitalist system and all other systems of exploitation once and for all.

"The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear." In an era of severe austerity, rising inequalities and precarious employment, the discontent engendered is leading to morbid symptoms in the form of the rise of extreme rightwing and neo-Nazi forces. Racism, xenophobia and anti-migrant feelings are being whipped up".

Re: [IAC#RG] Hindu Samaj celebrates the Christian New Year by fiilng a RTI to VP Venkaiah Naidu

Dear Sarbajit,

Well mooted RTI Application!!

The VP is Very well taken to task!!

The same VP uttered the other day about duped by the "Reduce Fatness" ads.

We must remind him "VP saheb, Yes! Ads are misleading!! 
Entire country was duped by "Acche Din" ads!

However, Politicians can only be compared in term of 
"How worst can they go and how low can they stoop" 

On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Online RTI Request Form Details

RTI Request Details :-

RTI Request Registration number	VPSEC/R/2018/50001
Public Authority	Vice-President Secretariat

Personal Details of RTI Applicant:-

Name	Sarbajit Roy
Gender	Male
Address	c/o Hindu Samaj of India , B-59 Defence Colony, New Delhi
Pincode	110024
Country	India
State	Delhi

(Description of Information sought (upto 500 characters) Description of Information Sought

Please provide me following information

1. Information if public statements being made by Sh Venkaiah Naidu (Vice President) on singing Bande Mataram are in his personal capacity or his official capacity

2. Information if Sh Venkaiah Naidu attended a function in Chennai around 10 Dec 2017 for 96th birth anniversary of poet Subramania Bharati in his official capacity or personal capacity and who bore cost of visit

3. Information if any rebuttal or rejonder has been issued about remarks attributed to Shri Naidu in news reports like - Do not understand problem in singing Vande Mataram, says Vice President M Venkaiah Naidu - circulated by PTI on 10 Dec 2017

4. Information if Shri Venkaiah Naidu attended a function in Shirdi around 23 Dec 2017 for Saibaba Temple Trust in his official capacity or his personal capacity and who bore cost of visit

5. Information if any rebuttal or rejonder has been issued about remarks attributed to Shri Naidu in news reports like - Why should Vande Mataram rendition bother anybody, asks Vice-President Venkaiah Naidu - circulated by PTI on 23 Dec 2017

6. Information if Shri Venkaiah Naidu attended a function in New Delhi on or about 8 Dec 2017 for event to release a book on former VHP chief late Ashok Singhal in his official capacity or personal capacity and who bore cost of visit

7. Information if any rebuttal or rejonder has been issued about remarks attributed to Shri Naidu in news reports like - Venkaiah Naidu on Vande Mataram, If not your mother, would you salute Afzal Guru - circulated by PTI on 8 Dec 2017

8. Information that the Vice President of India was aware, or made aware, that the song / poem Bande Mataram is a part of the book/novel Anandmath by Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay

9. Information that the Vice President of India was aware, or made aware, that conclusion of the book/novel Anandmath is that the motherland of Hindustan represented by Bharat Mata is only fit to be ruled by the English and that all believers of the True Faith / National religion must submit to the English or adopt Christianity as their religion

10. Information if it is the Government of Indias objective, expressed by Shri Venkaiah Naidu by making such several public statements implying that it is anti-national not to sing Bande Mataram, to reimpose English rule on India

11. Information if it is the Government of Indias objective, expressed by Shri Venkaiah Naidu by making such several public statements implying that it is anti-national not to sing Bande Mataram, to convert Hindu religionists into Christians

12. Information of the official instructions, specifying that National Anthem is to be played when Vice President of India arrives and departs from functions where he is Chief Guest

13. Reason/s why National Anthem was played twice for Vice President at Central Information Commission function on 6 Dec 2017 at New Delhi when he is apparently not entitled to have it played even once for himself

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[IAC#RG] Access to Index and catalogue of records of Parliament

To:

Shri J.M. Baisakh
Director
(Central Public Information Officer of the Lok Sabha Secretariat)
Room No. 164, Parliament House Annexe
Tel. (O) 23035386, 23035278

cc:
Smt. Sudesh Luthra
Additional Secretary
(Appellate Authority in the Lok Sabha Secretariat)
Room No. 336, Parliament House Annexe

Dear Sir / Madam

I refer to certain information published on website of Lok Sabha of India at URL
http://parliamentofindia.nic.in/ls/janganman.htm

Because I am extremely surprised to learn from your website that

"The song, Jana-gana-mana, composed originally in Bengali by Rabindranath Tagore, was adopted in its Hindi version by the Constituent Assembly as the National Anthem of India on January 24, 1950."

and also that

"The playing time of the full version of the national anthem is approximately 52 seconds."

I am seeking access to your index and catalogue of records to identify the basis for these statements, which I believe to be utterly false and incorrect statements.

Thereafter if any such information exists, I intend to file an RTI request / application specifying the information I desire certified copies of from your records.

Accordingly, I would be obliged if you would facilitate my right to information by giving me urgent access to the index and/or catalogue entries for any records held in Lok Sabha concerning these aforesaid statement published on your website

sincerely

Sarbajit Roy

B-59 Defence Colony

New Delhi 110024

Tel : +91-8010205897